Thursday, January 28, 2010

I Don't Remember this Lesson in Civics Class

TO: wjensen@co.slo.ca.us, ahill@co.slo.ca.us, fmecham@co.slo.ca.us, jpatterson@co.slo.ca.us, kachadjian@co.slo.ca.us, bgibson@co.slo.ca.us
DATE: 1/28/10

Dear Supervisors, and County Counsel,

Yesterday I cc'd you on an e-mail (reprinted below) that I sent to SLO County parks planner, Jan Di Leo, where I had to beg her for the staff report for an Item listed on the agenda for tonight's Parks Commission meeting:

"8. Proposal from San Luis Obispo Botanical Gardens – Dave Porter (7:00)"

This morning -- the morning of the meeting -- she finally replied:

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Ron,
That item was continued until February 25, 2010. At this point there is no report. I believe Dave Porter was simply coming to give a report. Our web site has the Parks Commission agenda and staff reports. So, prior to the February meeting (around Feb. 19th) you should be able to down load [sic] the agenda and the report (if there is one).

Jan Di Leo
Parks Planner
SLO County Parks
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I have several questions, and comments, regarding that response.

1) Can an Item posted on an agenda be "continued" even before Board discussion on that Item, and on the same day of the meeting?

[Please keep in mind that I recently published my complaint with the FPPC, at this link:

http://sewerwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/great-san-los-osobispo-botanical-sewer.html

... asking them to investigate this arrangement:

Where Pandora Nash-Karner is Bruce Gibson's appointment to the SLO County Parks Commission, and she also sits on the Board of Directors for the San Luis Obispo Botanical Garden -- a facility that leases County-owned land, is discussed at Parks Commission meetings, and is also planning a "$20 million" expansion, and, according to their executive director, the one proposal they have received to design the project was from the SWA Group, where Nash-Karner's husband, Gary Karner, was a "Managing Principal and Senior Project Manager for 27 years and is currently retained by SWA."

THEN, just two days ago (read: less than 72 hours ago), I read on the Parks Commission agenda for tonight's meeting:

"Proposal from San Luis Obispo Botanical Gardens – Dave Porter (7:00)"

THEN, I begged Mrs. Di Leo for the staff report, and two days later she replied:

"That item was continued until February 25, 2010. At this point there is no report."

THEN, Mrs. Di Leo writes, "I believe Dave Porter was simply coming to give a report," when the Item clearly says, "Proposal."

THEN, Mrs. Di Leo writes, "Our web site has the Parks Commission... staff reports," when it clearly doesn't. Here's the link:

http://www.slocountyparks.com/information/parkscommission.htm ]

and;

2) Considering that Item 8 wasn't postponed until AFTER I asked for the staff report for that Item (less than 72 hours ago) -- and as of THIS MORNING, the web site that lists the agenda still reads: "Proposal from San Luis Obispo Botanical Gardens – Dave Porter (7:00)" -- shouldn't a staff report still have been prepared, according to the Brown Act?

[By the way, I'll also be adding these possible (and egregious) Brown Act violations to my FPPC complaint.]

Thank you in advance for your prompt replies,
Ron

P.S. Boy, these run-arounds are a lot of work.

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Sent 1/27/10:

Hello Jan,

Yesterday morning I sent you an e-mail requesting the staff report for the following item on this Thursday's Parks Commission meeting agenda:

"Proposal from San Luis Obispo Botanical Gardens – Dave Porter (7:00)"

That was 24 hours ago, and I've yet to receive a response, although you were kind enough to promptly respond to my other e-mails, below, and thank you for that.

That meeting is tomorrow, so PLEASE, is there any way I can get that report today? (And, frankly, I'm a little disappointed that the report isn't linked on the Parks Commission web site, like they are with other SLO County government agencies, like the Planning Commission, and the Supes.)

So, again, please e-mail me the staff report for that item, and the proposal (if available) as soon as possible. And, please don't force me to do a public records request to get that staff report, as those take up to 10 days to fulfill, and the meeting is tomorrow.

Thanks again,
Ron

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Incidentally, from the Parks Commission meeting minutes from December, 2009:

"Proposal from San Luis Obispo Botanical Gardens – Dave Porter. Postponed."

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6 Comments:

  • Ron, i'm about ready to scratch you out a check as a donation to your cause. I don't give away money easily, so my mind is not made up totally yet. But from these Botanical gardens stories I think she should be up on the dias instead of Richard yelling "I have f****** balls!"
    Sincerely, M

    By Blogger M, at 2:20 PM, January 28, 2010  

  • Yesterday morning I sent you an e-mail requesting the staff report for the following item ................
    That was 24 hours ago, and I've yet to receive a response,
    That meeting is tomorrow, so PLEASE, is there any way I can get that report today? ...


    Maybe it takes longer than 24 hours to rewrite the proposal/report? Maybe this just got cleaned up in a bigga hurry?

    By Blogger Commentary, at 6:42 PM, January 28, 2010  

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    By Blogger Richard LeGros, at 9:00 AM, January 29, 2010  

  • Ron,

    Just an FYI....

    Your FPPC complaint about PNK is not 'ripe'.

    Your complaint is not 'ripe' as NO DECISIONS have been made by the Parks Commission regarding the Botanical Garden agenda item.
    Because no decisions have been made, the FPPC will see your complaint as premature; hence decline it.

    Meanwhile, if you would like to see the correct format for an FPPC complaint that has been accepted by the FPPC; and is currently being investigated by them, try giving TW a call.
    In October, 2009, TW filed a series FPPC complaints against Lisa Schicker, Julie Tacker, Chuck Cesena, Steve Senet, John Fouche, and Julie Biggs of BW&S; alleging that they all failed to list on their Form 700 Disclosure Forms their financial relationships, and as required by law.

    The FPPC is currently actively investigating all these individuals; and have recently been putting J Biggs and BW&S through the wringer on their non-disclosure issues. The resulting fines the FPPC will collect from these individuals will be in the tens of thousands.

    By Blogger Richard LeGros, at 9:01 AM, January 29, 2010  

  • A "Richard LeGros" wrote:

    "Because no decisions have been made, the FPPC will see your complaint as premature; hence decline it."

    We'll soon find out, won't we?

    In the meantime, "Richard," what do you think the chances are (now) that Gary Karner's SWA Group will land that fat, SLO Botanical Garden contract?

    (It sure sounds like they had that scam a-brewin' for years, huh? I can't tell ya how glad I am to provide the monkey wrench.)

    C. wrote:

    "Maybe it takes longer than 24 hours to rewrite the proposal/report?"

    Yep... cantcha just smell the panic? So, they just cancelled the entire Item altogether, or, as I like to call it, "serious Brown Act violations."

    By the way, after some research, the FPPC does not investigate Brown Act violations, so I'll soon be drafting my letter to the DAs office, asking them to investigate.

    (Thanks, M!)

    By Blogger Ron, at 10:30 AM, January 29, 2010  

  • Ron,

    The County Government MIGHT award a Grant to a private organization (the Botanical Garden Society). The purpose of the Grant is to help a private organization implementation plans regarding a garden open for public use.

    The Botanical Garden Society, as a private organization, may use the grant money any way they wish. As the Botanical Garden Society is not a public organization, they are not beholden to the Brown Act or any of the disclosure laws that apply to government (the County).

    The board of the Botanical Garden Society is free to hire any landscaping design firm they wish regardless of family ties to any member(s) of that organization; or family ties of any of their members who are involved in other organizations, or serve in volunteer governmental positions.

    The County Grant will be issued by the vested power of the County Supervisors, not the Parks Commission. As PNC is on the Park Commission, she has every right to politic the that the County Supervisors award the grant. She even has the right to take part in the Park Commission’s vote; though she would be prudent not to do so for political reasons.

    As for SWA being awarded a contract, that decision is not mine to make; nor do I care. If SWA meets all the project needs of the Botanical Society at a cost that they find competitive, then that is a decision that organization can make. Also, do not forget that the project was put out to bid; the fact that no other firms bid is unfortunate, but not unheard of.


    When the FPPC rejects your complaint, and decline to investigate, it is because your complaint is premature and not valid in regards to law. It is the legal merit of the complaint which drives the FPPC’s decisions.


    As for your future complaint to the DA, that will go nowhere either. The DA will reject your complaint for exactly the same reasons as the FPPC.


    FYI, I did not say anything about the 'Brown Act' in my prior post.
    I assume that you have confused the TW FPPC complaints as being 'Brown Act' related; which they are not.

    The TW complaints to the FPPC arise from issues of law requiring governmental officials and governmental consultants in decision-making positions to properly file their yearly Form 700Disclosure Forms.

    If you wish to see the specific allegations, evidence and pertinent law supporting the complaints, call the FPPC.

    By Blogger Richard LeGros, at 11:28 AM, January 29, 2010  

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