Former SLO County Public Works Director, Noel King, Apparently Brilliant
TO: Paavo Ogren, SLO County Public Works Director
DATE: 7/13/10
Hello Paavo,
I'm researching a story involving Los Osos, and I have a few questions regarding a "site restoration bond" that, apparently, the SLO County Public Works Department required the Los Osos CSD to obtain prior to the District's decision to begin construction at the environmentally sensitive Tri-W site in 2005.
Apparently, in August 2005, the county was saying to the LOCSD something like, "Look, if you're really going to start ripping up all of that ESHA, just one month before an election that could permanently stop that 'project,' then we're going to require that you have a contingency plan ready to fund the restoration of that environmentally sensitive habitat, in the event that the recall election is successful."
According to a May 10, 2006 letter from former LOCSD Director, Lisa Schicker, to the Construction Management Association of America, and reprinted on Ann Calhoun's excellent blog, at this link:
http://calhounscannon.blogspot.com/2006/05/whose-ethics-following-is-formal.html
"The mandatory San Luis Obispo County (SLO) grading permit required that the District obtain a site restoration bond prior to the commencement of any and all grading activities. SLO County Public Works required the bond due to the pending recall election and pending voter initiative that could have halted work at the treatment plant site. Because of the County’s bond requirement, the District Board authorized staff to obtain the required grading bond specifically from “Insco Dico”. However, when Insco Dico refused to issue the bond (due to MWH’s failure to disclose the project risks and significant environmental impacts), MWH colluded with Monterey Mechanical, the treatment plant contractor, to arrange an alternate bond that not only covered the restoration of portions of the treatment plant site but also the restoration of the pipeline contractor’s sites."
If I'm not mistaken, the Coastal Commission is now requiring the restoration of the Tri-W site (due to the unnecessary, and premature start of construction in 2005) as part of the County's recently obtained development permit for your project.
So, here are my questions:
- How does a "site restoration bond" work? Can your department now dust off that 2005 bond, and use it to fund the restoration of the environmentally sensitive Tri-W site?
- If so, does your department have a ballpark figure on how much that restoration work will cost?
- It appears that requiring that bond was very "heads-up" thinking by the SLO County Public Works Department in 2005. If you could give me a few sentences on that subject, I'd appreciate it (and I bet, former Public Works Director, Noel King, would appreciate it, as well. Wow, he was SO right.)
As always, much thanks,
Ron
P.S. When I write about how the 2005 LOCSD Board began construction on the failed-Tri-W sewer "project" just one month before a recall election that, eventually stopped that project in its tracks, I always like to point out that, according to State election law, the people that are facing a recall election, especially if they make up the board majority, get to schedule the date of their own recall election.
In 2005, after listening to overwhelming public input to schedule the recall election at the earliest possible date, the three LOCSD Directors (board majority) ignored all of that public input, and, instead, scheduled their own recall election at one of the latest possible dates, and that bought them the extra month they needed to needlessly begin destruction of the environmentally sensitive Tri-W site.
A few years back, for a story I was researching, I was on the phone with SLO County Clerk-Recorder, Julie Rodewald, and I asked her, if it had been her decision to make, would she have scheduled that recall election at one of the earliest possible dates, or one of the latest? She told me that she would have scheduled it at one of the earliest possible dates.
Which means, if California election law stated that a county's top election official is required to set a recall election date -- instead of those that are facing the recall -- the Tri-W site would have never been touched in 2005, and that "site restoration bond" would have never been needed.
I first exposed all of that -- in 2006 -- at this link:
http://sewerwatch.blogspot.com/2006/09/californias-recall-elections-code.html
A very, very interesting story, I must admit.
P.P.S. I've published this e-mail on my blog:
sewerwatch.blogspot.com
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DATE: 7/13/10
Hello Paavo,
I'm researching a story involving Los Osos, and I have a few questions regarding a "site restoration bond" that, apparently, the SLO County Public Works Department required the Los Osos CSD to obtain prior to the District's decision to begin construction at the environmentally sensitive Tri-W site in 2005.
Apparently, in August 2005, the county was saying to the LOCSD something like, "Look, if you're really going to start ripping up all of that ESHA, just one month before an election that could permanently stop that 'project,' then we're going to require that you have a contingency plan ready to fund the restoration of that environmentally sensitive habitat, in the event that the recall election is successful."
According to a May 10, 2006 letter from former LOCSD Director, Lisa Schicker, to the Construction Management Association of America, and reprinted on Ann Calhoun's excellent blog, at this link:
http://calhounscannon.blogspot.com/2006/05/whose-ethics-following-is-formal.html
"The mandatory San Luis Obispo County (SLO) grading permit required that the District obtain a site restoration bond prior to the commencement of any and all grading activities. SLO County Public Works required the bond due to the pending recall election and pending voter initiative that could have halted work at the treatment plant site. Because of the County’s bond requirement, the District Board authorized staff to obtain the required grading bond specifically from “Insco Dico”. However, when Insco Dico refused to issue the bond (due to MWH’s failure to disclose the project risks and significant environmental impacts), MWH colluded with Monterey Mechanical, the treatment plant contractor, to arrange an alternate bond that not only covered the restoration of portions of the treatment plant site but also the restoration of the pipeline contractor’s sites."
If I'm not mistaken, the Coastal Commission is now requiring the restoration of the Tri-W site (due to the unnecessary, and premature start of construction in 2005) as part of the County's recently obtained development permit for your project.
So, here are my questions:
- How does a "site restoration bond" work? Can your department now dust off that 2005 bond, and use it to fund the restoration of the environmentally sensitive Tri-W site?
- If so, does your department have a ballpark figure on how much that restoration work will cost?
- It appears that requiring that bond was very "heads-up" thinking by the SLO County Public Works Department in 2005. If you could give me a few sentences on that subject, I'd appreciate it (and I bet, former Public Works Director, Noel King, would appreciate it, as well. Wow, he was SO right.)
As always, much thanks,
Ron
P.S. When I write about how the 2005 LOCSD Board began construction on the failed-Tri-W sewer "project" just one month before a recall election that, eventually stopped that project in its tracks, I always like to point out that, according to State election law, the people that are facing a recall election, especially if they make up the board majority, get to schedule the date of their own recall election.
In 2005, after listening to overwhelming public input to schedule the recall election at the earliest possible date, the three LOCSD Directors (board majority) ignored all of that public input, and, instead, scheduled their own recall election at one of the latest possible dates, and that bought them the extra month they needed to needlessly begin destruction of the environmentally sensitive Tri-W site.
A few years back, for a story I was researching, I was on the phone with SLO County Clerk-Recorder, Julie Rodewald, and I asked her, if it had been her decision to make, would she have scheduled that recall election at one of the earliest possible dates, or one of the latest? She told me that she would have scheduled it at one of the earliest possible dates.
Which means, if California election law stated that a county's top election official is required to set a recall election date -- instead of those that are facing the recall -- the Tri-W site would have never been touched in 2005, and that "site restoration bond" would have never been needed.
I first exposed all of that -- in 2006 -- at this link:
http://sewerwatch.blogspot.com/2006/09/californias-recall-elections-code.html
A very, very interesting story, I must admit.
P.P.S. I've published this e-mail on my blog:
sewerwatch.blogspot.com
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10 Comments:
Little "r",
How does this sentence make you feel?:
...the Coastal Commission is now requiring the restoration of the Tri-W site (due to the unnecessary, and premature start of construction in 2005) as part of the County's recently obtained development permit for your project.
Facing facts will help with your _______.
By Watershed Mark, at 11:00 AM, July 13, 2010
(due to the unnecessary, and premature start of construction in 2005)
Ouch! Truth hurts...
By Watershed Mark, at 11:02 AM, July 13, 2010
No Ron, you have this DEAD WRONG, sorry.
If the recall election had been set for the earliest dates, the recall would have surly failed and construction of the TriW plant would have continued as planned.
Why?, well that is answered by the most basic political truth known, namely, that the more you let someone lie about you, the more people will believe it. Setting the date after construction was the biggest blunder, exceeding even the first blunder of forming the CSD in the first place, that Los Osos had to suffer
Nobody will ever be able to quantify to everyones satisfaction that events did or didn't benefit Los Osos in the long run, some will opine that delay in addressing the salt water intrusion will turn out to be the elephant in the room, others will be glad for a plant out of town, most will hate the bill.
By Mike Green, at 3:16 PM, July 13, 2010
"(due to the unnecessary, and premature start of construction in 2005)"
Untrue again, The start of construction was a contractual agreement.
What happened was a delay of the recall vote.
Results open to disagreement, but facts are a hard thing to refute, the contracts were signed way before the recall.
By Mike Green, at 5:31 PM, July 13, 2010
Setting the date after construction was the biggest blunder…
Little "r",
How does this statement make you feel?
Cuts like a good sharp knife...Your "revisionist" histrionics just don’t smell right, does it?
Tell us again how you and your group studied USBF™ wastewater treatment technology. Oops you didn’t…More “r” histrionics.
“r” ,
Have you sent Ron a check yet?
By Watershed Mark, at 12:45 PM, July 14, 2010
MG Wrote:
"If the recall election had been set for the earliest dates, the recall would have surly failed and construction of the TriW plant would have continued as planned."
I've seen that argument before, and it's waaaay too speculative for my taste.
Who knows? Maybe the Recall-Target's strategy of, "Hey, look, we've already started construction. There's no turning back now," worked on some voters, and that actually shrunk the margin of victory for the recall election.
There's just no way to say that had construction not started before the election, the Recalled-Three would have stayed in office.
You just can't get there from here. The logic doesn't exist.
All I can go on is what happened, and what happened was the recall election was successful AFTER they started construction, and so, all things being equal, it would have been successful BEFORE they started construction... and boy do I have an unbelievably great update on that subject... that, with a bit of luck, I'll posting soon.
By Ron, at 8:35 AM, July 15, 2010
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By Mike Green, at 5:02 PM, July 17, 2010
Who knows? Maybe the Recall-Target's strategy of, "Hey, look, we've already started construction. There's no turning back now," worked on some voters, and that actually shrunk the margin of victory for the recall election."
I know.
I talked to way more than twenty people, most saw starting the construction before the election as arrogance, after all, at least one of them had the moxie to declare that their scrotums were huge and therefore invincible. I am somewhat perplexed that you have the "Behavior Marketing" stuff so down and perfect, yet you dismiss the postulation that the recall was really a backlash of the same thing later. After all, everyone had the same amount of time to make their case.
Except the case for TriW was already known by everyone that had any opinion at all about the sewer, it is unlikely that TriW supporters would garner more support without active demonstration and voter education.
The Anti TriW folks held signs on the corners and sat in trees yelling.
They had a plan that would cost 138 dollars a month!
The pro TriW folks had vague threats and the unenviable position of defending their plan at nearly double the cost of previous county's plan.
Is it illogical to guess who was gaining ground? I don't think so. To say that the recall prevailed because the anti-TriW crowd got a big boost by having even more time to make any argument they wanted, plus the circus aspect of some of the events would seem to be a solid idea. The inverse of that would seem preposterous. The more time partially informed folks got bombarded with "Plans" the more they believed it. Worked on me at least, I wanted a 135/Month out of town sewer and I was pretty miffed that the 90/month County plan that was there when I moved there had morphed into a 200/month sewer park a mile from my house. So, you may call it speculation without logic, I call it logical speculation.
Had the election happened at the earliest date the recall would have failed.
I'm surprised you don't think one of the nations biggest political blunders is so un noteworthy
(repost for edit)
By Mike Green, at 5:29 PM, July 17, 2010
MG wrote:
"So, you may call it speculation without logic, I call it logical speculation."
That's funny.
I'm not saying that your speculation isn't without logic (if that makes sense), I'm just saying it's still speculation.
What isn't speculation is that the recall was successful.
I just find this take, by a 2005 Los Osos voter, to be kind of a weird:
"Ya know, I was going to vote to continue with the Tri--W disaster... that included a waaaay more expensive than necessary sewer plant, smack dab in the middle of town for the sole reason that we could easily get to the sewer plant so we can "picnic" in it with the kids, but then those three gosh-darn LOCSD directors went and started construction on it just before the election, and that pissed me off, so I changed my vote, and decided not to back the Tri-W disaster... that included an unnecessarily waaay more expensive sewer plant smack in the middle of town, for the sole reason that we could easily get to the sewer plant so we can 'picnic' in it with the kids."
Yep, you're right. I have a hard time buying that take.
I mean, if that's REALLY what happened in Los Osos, and that take is why the recall was successful, then Los Osos is dumber than I think... and that's saying something.
MG wrote:
"the (1998) 90/month County plan"
Or, as Pandora called it when she was behavior-based-marketing for the Solution Group throughout 1998, "ruinously expensive."
By Ron, at 9:57 AM, July 19, 2010
Dumber than you thought?
Fact, every time a cheaper sewer came up for a vote the cheaper one won.
(I discount the "advisory" vote, because it was waaaay biased, even the SLO county supervisors saw right through that one)
By Mike Green, at 3:01 PM, July 19, 2010
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